19 June, 2012

Fine-Haired Natural Ladies - Let's Talk

*UPDATE

I want to first of all say thank you to all the fabulous ladies who replied to this entry. I just have one request to make before I start posting the entries. Could you please send pictures of you/your hair to chyscurlz@gmail.com. We all know how we love to look at pictures of fabulous natural hair especially since there are so few that show ladies like us who have fine hair. Once I get the pictures, I will match them to the submissions and start posting. Please identify in your email which post corresponds to your pictures. Thank you so much. Chichi. *
 
After my post on BGLH  about the struggles of being a 'fine-haired' natural, I realized that many of us have no platform to share and connect with each other. I designed the following conversation points to get us to engage with and encourage each other. Even though it's a series of questions, I really intend for it be a discussion amongst us...a place to share tips and tricks we've picked up along the way.

Please include as many pictures as you'd like - more is always better :) I will post entries as I receive them so please fill out the below (add additional entries as you see fit) and email your responses to chyscurlz@gmail.com. Thanks :)

~ Smooches
ChiChi

·         Your name and a little about yourself

·         Why did you go natural?

·         How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity

·         Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine?

·         What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention?

·         Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not, why not

·         What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling

·         What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care?

·         With regards to styling & length retention, what’s more important: “following the rules”, psychological satisfaction or “other”?

·         Despite all the challenges, what makes being natural worth it?

·         Please share one styling/hair care tip that has been invaluable to you and ask the community to share special tips they’ve got.


18 comments:

  1. · Why did you go natural? Because if you think my hair looks thin now, you should see it straight

    · How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity. It is ever natural's nightmare. Low density, low thickness, and fine textured.

    · Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine? Moisture balance but I have found that now.

    · What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention? Really is no better then when it was straight. Just looks thicker.

    · Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not, why not. Wash and go's with Kinky Curly. Deva Care shampoo and conditioner. Deep condition/leave in condition/seal with whatever I have laying around.

    · What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling. Unless I add hair or do an updo, protective styles look awful on me.

    · What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care? Get it past shoulder length.

    · With regards to styling & length retention, what’s more important: “following the rules”, psychological satisfaction or “other”? Psychological satisfaction.

    · Despite all the challenges, what makes being natural worth it? Honestly I am not a natural hair nazi. I don't have a preference for either one. At this point, neither looks all that great. I am used to natural hair and it looks thicker so I stick with it.

    · Please share one styling/hair care tip that has been invaluable to you and ask the community to share special tips they’ve got. Stretched wash and gos. The little bit of curl makes it look thick but the stretching makes it frame my face and more manageable.

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    1. Hi Shanna, Thanks so much for your post. You are the first! Could you please email me a few pictures to include in the post? Thanks a lot :0

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  2. You are literally playing my life right now word for word! I've been natural for four years and have fine strands and low density hair. Protective styles give my absolutely zero psychological satisfaction. One problem is that I grew out my perm believing that my hair would be thicker, but it wasn't. My ends aren't colored, processed or anything. I have a complete head of thin natural hair and can't find a styling option that works best for me. I don't really like doing blowouts, but any type of twist/bantu/braid out will look lopsided and require too much manipulation for a busy college girl like me! I'm currently wearing senegalese twists but I only got them as a last resort. I get a "scalpy" look if I braid or twist my hair without any added, so that's not a solution for me either. I'm considering perming my hair again because I don't see a reason to be natural if I can't enjoy the natural styles I intended too. I guess it's a bad idea to look at pictures on the road of your transition and get excited all to be disappointed.

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    1. I'm so sorry dear. I would say hold off on the relaxers for now. Think about it, your biggest frustration now seems to be how thin your hair is and going back to a relaxer will probably not fix it. I know not many people like short hair or WNGs but for me, I've realized that the shrinkage I have when I do WNGs is the way my hair naturally makes itself appear fuller. When I would stretch it out all the time with twists and braids, my hair would always look lifeless. Ever since I got this s haircut, I'm enjoying my hair like never before. I don't know where you are length-wise but having a stylist cut in some layers and embracing shrinkage will do the trick. And Senegalese twists are a great way to add versatility to things.

      You mentioned there is no reason to be natural is you can't do the styles you want. To that I would say that the joy of being natural to me is that I'm wearing my hair the way it's meant to be and that makes me happy. Hopefully with time, change in styling and expectations, it will make you feel the same way. :)

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  3. As soon as I get my act together I will send you my info. I have very fine/not dense hair too, so this series sounds great!

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  4. I'd like to know, when you wear twist/ mini-twist as protective styles:
    1. how often do you wash your hair?
    2. do you leave the twist in when you wash?
    4. how often do you moisturize your hair when wearing twist? (every night, twice a day, ???)
    4. do you do protein or deep conditioning treatments while wearing the twist? if so how often?
    5. how long should you keep twist in for long term protective styling?

    I have fine hair too. Unfortunately, I have been very very very unsuccessful in retaining length and/or preventing breakage. So I'd love for you to help me out, as I plan on protective styling, but I'm not quite sure how to go about the whole process.

    Thanks!!

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    1. Hi Kai, I actually have never done mini twists on my hair so I really can't help but I know who can naptural85 on YouTube does amazing mini twists and she has videos on installation, maintenance and great advice.

      Please keep me updated when and if you do decide to do some mini-twists.

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    2. Thanks! Will do :)

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  5. Your name and a little about yourself
    Stephanie

    · Why did you go natural? I have been dealing with Aloepicia for over 10 yrs now. Due to medical problems, too tight braids and weaves and total neglect of caring for my real hair.

    · How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity

    My hair is very thin, but it has gotten thicker since I've been keeping in in twists and twist outs.

    · Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine?
    I still have some thin areas in my scalp that are difficult to cover up because my hair is so fine. Luckily, I use scarves, headbands and combs to help with that.
    · What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention? Trying to retain length because my hair is so delicate has been an uphill battle, but it is getting better. I've learned to stick to a few products, instead of caving into being a product junkie looking for a miracle product to solve all of my products.

    · Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not,
    why not
    I wash my hair with Shea Moisture Curl and Shine Hibiscus shampoo once a week, co-wash with AS I AM twice a week and use hot oil treatments three days a week. I also baggy method every other night, because my hair gets so dry. On those days, I soak my hair with water in the shower, use Giovanni's Leave-In followed by a castor oil or Grape-seed oil scalp massage or seal my ends.

    · What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling
    WNGs do not work for me-- I've tried them and they were a disaster. Protective styling works better for me.

    · What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care?
    I want the shoulder-length hair that I had as a child.

    · With regards to styling & length retention, what’s more important: “following the rules”, psychological satisfaction or “other”?
    It's about doing what works for your hair. Everyone has their own way of doing things and what may work for one person's hair, may not work for yours.

    · Despite all the challenges, what makes being natural worth it?
    It's worth it to me because I have the peace of mind knowing that I'm dong what is right for me and I see that my hair is benefiting from me having better knowledge on how to look after it. 5 years ago, I was virtually bald and wearing wigs. Ive come a long way.
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    Please share one styling/hair care tip that has been invaluable to you and ask the community to share special tips they’ve got.

    I only use heat when I'm doing hot oil treatments, otherwise, I air dry my hair or use a microfiber towel or t-shirt. It cuts down on the frizz and dryness dramatically.

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  6. Your name and a little about yourself - Tonya

    Why did you go natural? My hair started to thin out in the crown area a couple of years ago and thought it was the perm so I cut my hair off (at that time I did not know that I was doing a big chop). My goal was to see if my hair would grow back thicker but it did not. I finally went to see a dermatologist and discovered that I have scarring alopecia.

    How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity. I have very thin hair mixed with some balding in the crown area due to the alopecia.

    Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine? I have to keep my hair in two strand twist all of the time. I find that when I wear my hair loose it tangles too bad and not worth the hassle. However, I am not a fan of how my hair look in the two strand twist. Lesser of two evils I suppose.

    What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention? In the beginning it was dryness and frizz but using the Kimmaytube leave in conditioner solved that after the first use.

    Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not, why not? Yes, I wash and deep condition my hair every Sunday. I always twist afterwards. Before using the Kimmaytube leave in conditioner I would have to wash my hair at least twice a week. After using it I only have to wash my hair once a week and it stays moisturized.

    What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling? I do not do wash n go's since my hair tangles easily. I love my two strand twist as a protective style. I debating if I want to do mini twist. I actually stumbled across this site researching if it is good to do mini twist on thin/fine hair.

    What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care? Growth, Retention and Healthy Hair

    With regards to styling & length retention, what’s more important: “following the rules”, psychological satisfaction or “other”? All of the above.

    Despite all the challenges, what makes being natural worth it? When I cut my hair off in 2010 it was purely because it was thinning. I had no intention on being "natural" and was wearing weaves and wigs. I happen to go on YouTube one day in 2011 and was introduced to the world of natural women and how happy they were with their natural hair. So the first year my hair was natural was a mess. I had no regimen and was still using bad products on my hair. Now that I understand hair care and natural hair I love it. New Year's Day 2012 was the first day that I wore my real hair out and have not turned back. I told my husband that the world was about to get the real me thinning in the crown area and all.

    Please share one styling/hair care tip that has been invaluable to you and ask the community to share special tips they’ve got. Moisturize you hair!!! Take care of your hair. Learn what your hair is saying to you. What works for one does not work for all. Get ideas from others and put your own spin to it if needed.

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  7. Hi, my name is amara, been natural for 2 years but my hair is still ear length. it was growing until i did hot combing for about 2months and i noticed it was not healthy so i stopped. since then my hair refused to grow any more. it's so dry despite all the moisturizer i have tried.I wash weekly, and right now am thinking about getting a weave,because am so discouraged right now especially when I see other natural sisters with blooming hair and progress lol,,,, please someone help .

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  8. Hi Amara, I will definitely say don't give up but I understand if you need to get a weave to give you a little break.

    Look at the ends of your hair to see if you have straight ends which will be indicative of heat damage which will have to be gotten rid of (by trimming. Also, one thing I did that changed my hair care completely was switching over to all natural products. I say do cleanse your hair with a clarifying shampoo and then switch over to conditioners that do not have silicone and see how that works.

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  9. Your name and a little about yourself
    Hi I'm Leslie, I'm 34, mother to a nearly year old girl. I'm a RN and work predominantly night duty, and live in a predominantly white country.

    ·Why did you go natural?
    I have swung between relaxers and natural hair from the age of 11 till now. The main reason i went natural this last time was because my daughter was starting to notice differences in her hair and mine, so I decided to show her that natural hair is beautiful.

    ·How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity
    My hair was once described as a cotton wool ball!!! It is super fine, low density, thin strands and low porosity

    ·Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine?
    The main challenge is protective styling, without resorting to going to the hairdresser. I have mastered the moisture/protein balance - FINALLY - and I'm very pleased with the health of my hair.


    ·What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention?
    I have managed to see growth - healthy growth from my daily moisturizing, twist and twists outs. My hair feels and looks better than it has done for a long while.

    ·Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not, why not
    Yes to regimen - it's taken a while but....

    I Use Brahmi to DC as a pre poo
    Shampoo once a week, with a PH balanced conditioning shampoo
    Protein treatment every week with a natural protein treatment for max 20 mins
    DC withh homemade deep conditioner - usually condish with added oils with a heated head wrap for max 20 mins
    Use the LOC method - using water/aloe vera mix for Liquid, my version of kimmaytube leave in for Oil, and homemade mango butter mix for Cream.
    Then I twist and leave to air dry.
    I usually undo the twists every day for work, but retwist every night/morning(after work) for sleep
    To retwist I spritz ends lightly with my water mix and use sunflower and sweet almond oil to seal and retwist. LUSH hair in the morning.
    I also henna once a month.

    ·What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling
    I have used both at different times and like both. However due to my work and the age of my daughter protective styles are the most practical for me.

    ·What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care?
    health health health. of course I would like my hair to grow but healthy hair and scalp are my ultimate goals. I want to teach my daughter that she can look after her hair and have any hairstyle she wants without resorting to chemicals.


    ·With regards to styling & length retention, what’s more important: “following the rules”, psychological satisfaction or “other”?

    Psychological satisfaction for sure. I have to feel my own swag!!!

    ·Despite all the challenges, what makes being natural worth iit?
    My natural hair is like my dimple when i smile,like my skin when it glows - all mine, all natural

    ·Please share one styling/hair care tip that has been invaluable to you and ask the community to share special tips they’ve got.

    I have found that trial and error is the only way to learn what your hair likes,eg mango butter wins over shea butter for me, but my daughter's hair loves it, grapeseed/sunflower/almond oil over coconut/castor oil, and what you're comfortable with, eg I'm happy to have twists at home but would rather not go out in public with them. Being natural doesn't have to cost a fortune, and I personally prefer homemade products that I can tweak to store bought products.
    Phew that was long but It took me nearly 2 years to finally GET it about my hair care and thats it - as concisely as I could put it.
    Leslie

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  10. Your name and a little about yourself - Kerri. I'm a 32 year old wife and mommy. I LOVE NATURAL HAIR! Just not necessarily mine.

    · Why did you go natural? - I went natural because I truly love natural textures and versatility. My hair is extremely thin/fine and I did think that it would be magically THICK if I went natural. Not so at all.

    · How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity - My hair is thin, fine, not dense at all, and definitely thinner in the crown area than in the back. This alone makes styling very difficult.

    · Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine? - I feel that because of the low density of my hair and the thin strands, I don't have the same styling options as other naturals with big, bountiful hair. It makes me sad, although I'm trying to learn to just love what I have and work with it.

    · What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention? - I can see growth, however it is not as fast as I'd like. I usually don't do length checks and all of that jazz because my hair is usually in twists or sew ins. I'd like to STOP that though. I want to wear my hair and find styles that compliment what God gave me. I want so badly to embrace it and to learn how to care for it jus as it is.

    · Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not, why not - When my hair isn't in twists or sew ins, my regimen was to shampoo and deep condition weekly, co-wash in between, and every other week I'd use a clarifying shampoo.

    · What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling -I'll just say that I haven't found what works for me. I haven't found a look I love with WNGs and I haven't ever tried protective styling that didn't involve wigs on top, weaves or braids of some sort.

    · What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care? - I'd like to get to a solid shoulder length, I'd like more fullness in the thinner areas.

    · With regards to styling & length retention, what’s more important: “following the rules”, psychological satisfaction or “other”? - I think psychological satisfaction is most important for me. I know that the rules don't work for everyone in every case. I'm not about bandwagons.

    · Despite all the challenges, what makes being natural worth it? - It's worth it because I truly believe my hair is healthier this way. My next journey is to accept my hair as it is and learn how to care for and style it.

    · Please share one styling/hair care tip that has been invaluable to you and ask the community to share special tips they’ve got. - Moisture! and my satin bonnet :-)

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  11. Your name and a little about yourself
    Hey. I'm Nadine from London, UK. I found your blog when I Googled "protective styles for thin hair"

    Why did you go natural?
    I didn't PLAN on going natural. Originally in 2009, after noticing my hair was getting thin, I decided to take a break from relaxer. I started experimenting with weaves but then loved the versatility and became addicted. I watched Chris Rock's 'Good Hair' during that period and decided that I wasn't going to bother relaxing again. At that stage, I still wasn't ready to embrace my own hair so I continued with weaves, wigs or pressing it straight. It's only now in 2012 that having been encouraged by the natural community online, that I've started wearing my hair in its natural state.

    How would you describe your hair in terms of density, strand thickness & porosity.
    Low density, low thickness and I'm not sure how to determine porosity?

    Please share a few of the general challenges you’ve contented with so far with your natural hair care routine?
    Challenges - Everything! How to look after and style my hair. What products to use. Literally everything about it has been a challenge.

    What has been your challenges/rewards regarding styling and length retention?
    My hair has quite a lot of length but that's not my goal. My goal is thick healthy hair. After reading your post, I think I have heat damage on my ends (probably from pressing it every fortnight!)so once I've finished Kinky Curly Coily Me's 3 month castor oil challenge, I plan to cut my ends off.

    Do you have a fixed regimen? If so, what is it? if not, why not
    I'm trying to develop a regimen. I'm still new to this and I'm learning. At the mo, I wash and deep condition every weekend. I mostly wear twist outs for curl definition and style it into and updo or a ponytail.

    What are your thoughts on WNGs vs protective styling
    I've never tried a wash and go and I'm keen to try out more protective styling. Which is how I found your blog. I wanted inspiration on styles for thin hair. Two strand twists look terrible on me. I can't do much with them at all. Doesn't look anything like the twists I see on my fellow naturals online. I need to find something that works for me.

    What is/are your long term goals regarding your hair care?
    For the immediate future I want to find protective styles that I can wear for at least a week at a time. But styles that I like. Styles that still make me look and feel attractive.

    I'm glad I came across this post. It's good to know I'm not alone! Now... I just need to find some styles that work for me :)

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